SHIRES: Oh, yeah. It goes, (singing) I woke up this morning, and I looked out my door. AMANDA SHIRES AND JASON ISBELL: (Singing) Everythings going to be OK. Its going to be all right. Michael Schmelling. If youre just joining us, my guest is songwriter, singer and musician Amanda Shires, and her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. Well be right back. So I was left to the radio choices of sports ball and country top 40 country music. In the decade-plus that Shires has been making solo albums in addition to working as a side person with Billy Joe Shaver, Justin Townes Earle and, eventually, her husband and fellow singer-songwriter Jason Isbell she's expressed self-consciousness about the shivers and tremors in her singing voice, tried to smooth them out of her delivery and ultimately embraced its untameness. This is FRESH AIR. I was snared by your wrist. GROSS: So you ended up, like, accompanying him. If you see my milk cow, please drive her on home cause I had no milk and butter no since my cows been gone. And we had a TV that wed watch, you know, Saturday Night Live on Saturdays. Girls high school basketball team forfeits a game because it refused to play against a team with a transgender player, Fox Leaders Wanted to Break From Trump but Struggled to Make It Happen, Not Going to Read That: White House Press Secretary Brushes Off DeSantis Op-Ed, Sunshine returns to SoCal on Thursday but cold temps stick around, AccuWeather: AM showers before a mild afternoon, Opening arguments heard in court for 2020 Conway fatal shooting that killed a 19-year-old. And even on the charts, theres one spot usually I think in 2016, there was 13% representation of women to men on country radio, and now it still sits pleasantly at 16% on a good week. I recorded my interview with her last week. GROSS: So one of the ways you ended up becoming a songwriter as well as a singer and musician was that Billy Joe Shaver heard you play. And I save them all. And how come you didnt know before? I was like, Thats what I want to do, because you play this song and then you get to improvise you just play what you feel within the chord. SHIRES: And I think Sheryl Crow plays bass on that one. But anyway, he just grabbed my hand and held it. In 2016 there was 13% representation of women to men on country radio, and now it still sits pleasantly at 16% on a good week. I cried, I asked and I balled. During "Break Out the Champagne," Shires wryly relates an account of a female friend who was dumped by a dullard, only to realize that he'd never really satisfied her anyway: "I'm rock and rock and roll, and you're golf." It took Dave Cobb and it took Brandi and then it took Natalie [Hemby] and Maren Morris. And she was like, I had no idea. The Problem wraps up by driving home the weight of the decision for her character. SHIRES: Thats all you have to say? (Playing guitar, singing) Like a common loon, I started hearing birds, birdsong everywhere. Boosted and very grateful for it., When a fan asked how his wife Amanda Shires and their daughter are feeling, Isbell answered, Mercy is negative with no symptoms and Amanda didnt come with me on this run, shes negative at home. Im not joking. And I return to them often. photos by @alyssegafkjen I wouldnt go back and change it. I remember thinking, Wow, theres a lot of potential for me to really mess this up.'. Im not a big AA guy, but Ill go every once in a while. It is not trapped in your throat. And I was reading mine. The South is in need of a lot of help, Shires tells Rolling Stone. You used to lean in like I was whispering, any excuse to get near again. And from there, he introduced me to Frankie McWhorter. And in this case, I wanted Jason to also come in and sing it, too. 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Isbell said he had to cancel his Asheville shows scheduled for Jan. 11-12, but he and his team are working to reschedule shows in Louisville, Columbus, Wilkes-Barre and Wilmington. Another is a freedom rider who died during the Freedom Rides. And I was still dealing with all of it two and a half weeks later. ", In the bruising roots rocker "Eve's Daughter," propelled by a tense groove and serrated, scraggy guitar riffs, Shires plays the part of a woman so desperate to expand her horizons and satisfy her hunger that she's unafraid to take risks in the name of escape. GROSS: Without him asking? No more? Shires started playing fiddle professionally when she was 15 with the band the Texas Playboys, which used to be led by Bob Wills, the father of Western Swing. Demographer Diana Greene Foster conducted a 10-year study tracking both people who had abortions and people who were denied abortions. SHIRES: She did. OK. When the ball goes in the pocket, you win. Writing songs isnt so cut and dried, he says. ISBELL: (Singing) And all I could think to say was. It just seemed like the right thing to do because I dont want to spend my time on stage worried about if Im making people sick.. SHIRES: On August 9, yes, I was in Texas at Austin City Limits. I just feel like that invites a lot of conversation and questions, you know, into our marriage and our relationship. Along Yet, Isbell noted, the problem is that many of the venue owners are getting so much pushback from some of the governors of certain states who want to kowtow to their political base.. And usually that works. For my children, I did what I had to do. She performs in several settings and has received awards in each of them. At age 34, hes got the baggy eyes of a man who has spent a lot of time thinking hard late at night. Elizaveta Porodina/Courtesy of the artist And one day we wound up in the studio and we cut the song. GROSS: Thats the title song from the new album. Maybe I was asking for a little too much. And I was really into that. We want to hear it. In 2019, she founded a country music supergroup called The Highwomen alongside Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. And then you also get to play you get to improvise, which is when you go off the page, as they say, or you just play what you feel within the chords. SHIRES: I didnt know I was going to work it into a song until I got to the to writing it. Because thats not how I go into songwriting. I guess for awhile youve been looking for the exit. That way, there could be a more kind of a wider effort to try and have the conversation with folks and realize that youre not alone. WebWe would like to show you a description here but the site wont allow us. SHIRES: Theres this song called Milk Cow Blues. Its blues, you know? The subject isnt talked about enough, Shires says. And then in my mind I thought, well, if he couldnt hear the frequency of my voice before, maybe he could hear it through music, you know? She was in her home recording studio with her fiddle and with guitarist Zach Setchfield, and they played a few songs. Other than that, I think were all right. If you want a partner, take my hand or only you want to strike me down in anger, here I stand. But I just got up on a stage and took the fiddle and started playing it. In the first half of the 20th century citizens from every walk of life gathered at the Ryman to enjoy the greatest preachers, entertainers, speakers and politicians of the day. Dont support artists who dont support your rights. Theres so much attached to folks thinking women treat it as a kind of birth control. So I think she did a good job. And I said, thats all you have to say? And I said, Id love to. Wills was the father of western swing. However, Rapinos memo notes that Live Nation and artists can only make vaccines a requirement where permitted by law. Artists performing at government-operated venues in states where lawmakers have prohibited vaccine mandates will be prohibited from enforcing such measures. GROSS: Amanda Shires, how did you decide you wanted to write a song about abortion? You could say its all my fault. The Mandalorian Season Three Gets Off to a Disappointing Start Hearing these stories, I think that it makes your backbone stronger. Look at Texas' Primary. SHIRES: Well, myself and Brandi wrote the song. They might not have had a voice before or might have been cast out into the streets without any place to sleep had they mentioned it earlier in their lives. But whatever. Then her character takes control of the exchange in a teasing tone. And it was a Carrie Underwood song from it was, like, six years before that or something. 2023 Advance Local Media LLC. It was keeping me up at night. 825 Eighth Avenue, New York, NY 10019, WNET is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization. And then I asked Chance, and Chance was like, no, those are real documents. Then I told my friend Dave Cobb about my idea and he really liked it, and he said, Im going to have you meet Brandi Carlile. Members get extended access to PBS video on demand and more. I know the cost of flight is landing. So Im going to ask you to play one more song from your new album, to perform it for us. Like, I know that in all of the searching that he did still believe that there was something bigger out there. On top of that, Shires notes, the pro-life stance doesnt typically extend past birth. I got to a certain age and realized I couldnt be Indiana Jones.. SHIRES: Oh, I would have had to find somebody to drive me to Mexico or somewhere else. We just couldnt get along. Musician Adia Victoria also tweeted at Isbell and praised the artist for continuing to put the health and safety ofhis crew, my band, venue employees and fans first and foremost, to which he replied with three heart emojis. (SOUNDBITE OF AMANDA SHIRES SONG, SWIMMER), GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. And if you want another kind of love, Ill wear a mask for you. I see you talking, but I cant hear a thing. Amanda Shires and Jason Isbell depict a couple having an honest, difficult conversation about abortion in the new song The Problem.. Learn more about his tour. Im your man. I also received responses from trolls. I think she probably knew 100%, but.. All Rights reserved. And because of that, I felt like we should make it something thats as safe as it can possibly be. I would like to think that fans can hold their role models and their favorite musicians accountable. Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. And I said, OK, well, Ill be the healer. Elizaveta Porodina/Courtesy of the artist, Naming The Beast: Jason Isbell And Amanda Shires On Speaking Up In 2017. And then and neither of them told us that stuff. (Singing) Time was all Id want. I am your man. SHIRES: (Singing) Im well aware of what the nights made of. Long before weathering the isolating COVID-19 pandemic, Shires had endured years of studio experiences where producers and musicians undermined her And Frankie and Lanny, my teachers we were at Lannys house the first time Tommy came over, and then, I met him. You know, like, how does that go? Web0:00 / 2:57 Amanda Shires - Fault Lines (Official Audio) Amanda Shires 26.8K subscribers Subscribe 23K views 6 months ago "Fault Lines" is on Amanda Shires' new album. SHIRES: Well, that was that parts a secret, Terry. Which would I rather have? She gets pregnant and wants to have an abortion, although she doesnt feel great about it. Tomorrow on FRESH AIR, well talk about the power, promise and potential harm of YouTube. In 2020, The Highwomen won Album of the Year at the Americana Music Honors and Awards ceremony. The way she relaxes into low notes on that last line makes it sound far more like an unembarrassed confession than a complaint. Its not competition, Isbell makes clear with a chuckle. The singer, songwriter and fiddler found comfort with an unexpected collaborator and plumbed new depths on her latest album, Take It Like a Man. Amanda How did you decide to say that these songs are really about a bad period of your marriage? You can keep the car and the house. And I remember the first time I sang ever, Leon Rausch had to hold my hand. As they talked, Isbell was struck with a realization. I had no problem taking direction, but and I had no problem helping when I needed to help, so. Sign up for Rolling Stones Newsletter. All rights reserved (About Us). If you want a driver, climb inside or only want to take me for a ride, you know you can. So she did daytime job. As Delta Variant Spreads, Artists and Venues Scramble to Keep Concerts Safe (Rolling Stone), Live Nation Allows Artists to Require Vaccination or Proof of Negative Test Result for U.S. Concerts (Variety), This is a BETA experience. And here it sits. Use of and/or registration on any portion of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement, Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement, and Your Privacy Choices and Rights (each updated 1/26/2023). And I guess when we got to the third album sequence that I had, Jason was like, why isnt Fault Lines on there? Our guest will be Mark Bergen, author of the new book Like, Comment, Subscribe in which he reports on how YouTube ushered in a world of abundant content and creativity of influencers and online hustlers, of information overload and endless culture wars. And your verse, you are somebody who thinks of herself as a healer but was hung in the gallows during the Salem witch trials. So to give listeners a sense of Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys, listeners who dont know who they are, this is a classic 1940 recording of New San Antonio Rose., (SOUNDBITE OF SONG, NEW SAN ANTONIO ROSE), BOB WILLS AND HIS TEXAS PLAYBOYS: (Singing) Deep within my heart lies a melody, a song of old San Antone (ph) San Antone where in dreams I live with a memory beneath the stars, all alone. The Grammy-winning singer, songwriter and guitarist from Green Hill, Ala., made headlines in 2021 for requiring proof of vaccination or proof of a recent negative COVID test to attend his concerts. So when I would write the songs, I dont know whats going to come out, but sometimes, it was so I was just so down that the only way I could get better was to take it out on writing a song. How did you come up with the image of my hands are two empty cups? Is there a song that you could play a Leonard Cohen song you could play an excerpt of for us in tribute to him since were both such great fans? So lets do that. Trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble. This is FRESH AIR. You know, its Jimmy Webbs song originally, but. GROSS: Lawrence Rothman produced your new album. Soon after a Supreme Court draft ruling that would overturn Roe v. Wade was leaked last month, Amanda Shires shared some personal news on social media. Recently, I had an ectopic pregnancy, she tweeted. GROSS: How did you find that out? The Truth About Amanda Shires And Jason Isbell - TheList.com Chris Tompkins, a high school friend who has co-written mainstream country hits including Carrie Underwoods Before He Cheats and Florida Georgia Lines Get Your Shine On, says Isbell seemed on a different level even back when they were covering Stairway to Heaven together. If you share your story or share your beliefs, youre going to get some haters and trolls. And I really liked it. While the idea was mine, it wasnt only me that made this Highwomen be a thing. Like, I know that in all of the searching that he did still believe that there was something bigger out there, so I dont have to go trying to learn all these other things. AL.com spoke to Isbell last September about when he decided implementing these COVID restrictions at his shows was the right thing to do, how this stance has affected the relationship with some of his fans, what its like to finally hit the road and play again and what it will take for Alabama to have a change of heart on getting vaccinated. Shed been learning to play classical music on She co-founded the country supergroup The Highwomen, which includes Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. So it was just like a week and a half or two weeks afterwards that Texas banned abortion. And then coupled with the pandemic and all that, he was on self-preservation mode, and I was too. GROSS: What would the right voice for you like, whats wrong what doesnt match? Amy Salit and Susan Nyakundi produced and edited this interview for broadcast. A lark in the shower from the night to the morning after. Become a member of WLIW ($5 monthly or $60 annually) and get access to WLIW Passport as our thanks for your support. I had to spend the night with her at work. And you got your start professionally at age 15 playing fiddle with the Texas Playboys. The majority of people are in favor of womens reproductive rights and health; its others were trying to get to. Her new album of original songs is called Take It Like A Man. She also co-founded the country supergroup the Highwomen, which includes Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. I want Garth Brooks out there telling people that womens health is a priority. Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. And if you want a doctor, Ill examine every inch of you. You can call me serious trouble. And my stuff worked. In Portland, he led the band (including his wife on fiddle) through charging, heartfelt songs that often sounded like the cavalry was coming. But she was very good at keeping a lot of secrets. And how did you figure out what you wanted your point of view to be, you know, like, who the song would be about? (SOUNDBITE OF AMANDA SHIRES SONG, HAWK FOR THE DOVE), GROSS: Our digital media producer is Molly Seavy-Nesper. "I did a parking lot pirouette / I said, 'You're right I'm not done with you yet.'" GROSS: OK. SHIRES: (Singing) Im scared to even say the truth. In 2017, for her solo work, she was named emerging artist of the year at the Americana Music & Honors Awards ceremony. And then she wanted to know if it was real, so she hired a private investigator and all this. In a new interview, Shires who returns with her latest album Take It Like a Man in July goes deeper into her own experiences and calls on artists, especially those in Nashville, to start using the platforms theyve been given. People will have to prove that they have been raped. And this is the iteration of the band Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys, which got their start in they were most famous in the 30s and 40s and 50s. I didnt start learning how to accept my voice until recently. Because once you have a baby, theres no social programming to help. Since writing that op-ed, I have had reproductive healthcare that some might call an abortion when I was hospitalized in Texas on August 9, 2021, with a ruptured fallopian tube caused by an ectopic pregnancy. We found all this out afterwards. My daughter was about a year old, and I was getting into my touring van because I hadnt worked my way into a bus yet. I could just trust based on how Leonard Cohen did all that work for us. Fully renovated in 1994, the Ryman has never been more vibrant, attracting entertainers and fans from around the globe to enjoy its now legendary acoustics and rich history.Connect with the Ryman Auditorium:Like the Ryman Auditorium on FACEBOOK: http://bit.ly/rymanfbCheck out the Ryman Auditorium on INSTAGRAM: ttp://bit.ly/RymanInstagram Follow the Ryman Auditorium on TWITTER: http://bit.ly/tweettherymanBEHIND THE SCENES with Amanda Shires | Backstage at the Ryman | Ryman Auditoriumhttp://www.youtube.com/user/RymanAuditorium#AmandaShires, #Ryman, #TheHighwomen, #RymanAuditorium, #BackstageattheRyman Life cant help but interfere. So I dont have to go trying to learn all these other things. And youve called on country music stars to speak out, too. For the past decade or so, Amanda Shires has sung about the dark shades of relationships lapsed communication, broken trust, fading intimacy with a devastating eye for detail. SHIRES: So I thought if I could write a song with my feelings in it, that it might bring him around to the walls that arent really walls that we put ourselves behind sometimes. Fellow singer/songwriter Aimee Mann tweeted well wishes to Isbell: Im so sorry. After trailing off there, she draws a thorny conclusion about the web of intimate, familial dependency: "Maybe being human is an orphaned condition and what's missing isn't what should be found. And when I would write these songs, it was never in my mind, oh, I have to record them. Is there a song that youd like to do? And after we recorded it, he said, thats a really good song. Her study essentially proves that when folks cant have an abortion, it affects their mental health, their economic standing, their overall well-being. And her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. Well be right back after a short break. I mean, is it fatal for a woman if nothing is done? Why not? With vacations lagging and the dangerous delta variant spreading, the United States is averaging more than 100,000 new cases a day for the first time since early February. Live Nation also announced a vaccination requirement for employees entering events, venues or offices, which will take effect October 4. Our business and our industry is about uniting people, and vaccines are one of the greatest tools for making sure that everyone can continue to enjoy live music together, CEO Michael Rapino wrote to the companys employees. And that, to me, was incredible, because they had abortions in what was a pre-Roe v. Wade environment and theyre only now sharing their stories for the first time. McWhorter, who had played fiddle in Bob Wills band, became her teacher, and when Shires was just 15, he asked her to join The Texas Playboys. Bergen is a reporter for Bloomberg Businessweek. Amid the rise in infections, it was reported last week that one of the worlds most prominent concert promoters, Live Nation, will allow artists performing at its venues to require guests in the U.S. to show proof of vaccination or a negative Covid-19 test. Amanda Shires. And couple of lessons like that, he pulled out some fiddle tunes that he had been transcribing aurally from Frankie McWhorter. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. All the time, the want, the overwhelming volume of breathing. Do you think you would have been able to have the surgery if abortion had already been banned in Texas? 1,286 talking about this. The bastards hung me at the Salem gallows hill. You can have as much fun. And Zachs going to play guitar. They do tell you that going out and helping other people really helps you a lot. With artists and concert promoters nationwide forced to confront a surging spike in infections and hospitalizations attributed to the spread of the delta variant, Grammy award-winning musician, Jason Isbell, announced Monday that he and his band, the 400 Unit, will require concertgoers to provide proof of vaccination or a negative Covid-19 test to attend all their future shows, whether they are held indoors or outdoors. GROSS: So that was Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys from 1940, their song, New San Antonio Rose, with Leon McAuliffe on steel guitar. SHIRES: We were writing that, and Brandi was like, Im going to take the first one. And I dont know. Wade was leaked last month, Amanda Shires shared some personal news on social media. On August 10, my life was savedthese are some dark days.. As they talked, Amanda Shires. Amanda Shires (born March 5, 1982) is an American singer-songwriter and violin player. 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